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Nicky 6

What, you're not going to continue to blame the City of Toronto's new property transfer taxes for the country wide slump in real estate?

You real estate agents at too much!

Trekie2

What really bothers me is the fact that you clearly state that RE agents remove listings to "clear" the amount of days on market data from the MLS and relist lower. How is this honest business?

Again slimy RE agents just trying to move product and line there pockets...

Garth at least states some truths and if anyone with a brain looks at past trends in RE will soon see that a correction, i.e. crash is inevitable.

Popping-Bubbles

Ha ha ha ha. Too funny. In one month a book almost nobody had read caused "new listings on the market jumped by 37%".

Toronto realtor

Mr. Turner has influenced everyone and everything considering RE. His outlooks on the recent problems are a bit harsh and perhaps influenced by his political career. Most of his supporters come from the people who have some trouble with their homes and living, which are most Canadians. But non the less, his book has many good insights, though in some places the problems repeat in many matters. To the "renewed" listings us realtors sometimes use, they are not illegal, but may be considered as unfair, but sometimes, they are the only thing that can help sell.
But still John. You are doing a great job with this blog. Keep it up.
Julie

Calgary_rip_off

Garth rocks.

In Calgary.

Rafael Simms

obviously the writer of this article has a vested interest in the real estate market. How can be believe anything these people write. Information released by the media regarding the housing market is just creative form of advertising to get uninformed individuals to get into the real estate market.

Trekie2

Julie, you wrote -

To the "renewed" listings us realtors sometimes use, they are not illegal, but may be considered as unfair, but sometimes, "they are the only thing that can help sell."

How about honesty? Oooops....this is RE

islander

If you can't believe anything this guy writes, or you don't trust realtors, why are you reading this blog?

Shouldn't you be reading a source you trust?

Sincerely,

Your Mirror

islander

If you can't believe anything this guy writes, or you don't trust realtors, why are you reading this blog?

Shouldn't you be reading a source you trust?

Sincerely,

Your Mirror

islander

If you can't believe anything this guy writes, or you don't trust realtors, why are you reading this blog?

Shouldn't you be reading a source you trust?

Sincerely,

Your Mirror

islander

If you can't believe anything this guy writes, or you don't trust realtors, why are you reading this blog?

Shouldn't you be reading a source you trust?

Sincerely,

Your Mirror

Truth or Talk

Evrybody has their biases.

But as somebody who scours the internet for credible/objective sources of real estate information/analysis, I'd have to say that this blog is by far, the least biased when it comes to Toronto real estate. You just need to scan back on the older articles to see that this is the case.

John Pasalis

I forgot to mention that it isn't always realtors that recommend relisting properties. Often times sellers will insist on relisting their property to reset their days on market.

Since there are no rules or laws against this, sellers and agents will continue doing this.

I'm not condoning this practice, it just is what it is and we need to take this information into account when we're looking at New Listing data in a market that is slowing down.

Sam

Garth is 100% correct! The housing bubble has popped and people like you are trying to evade the facts.

toro

give it up John, you act like Garth's book is being read by millions, if it was then I will agree that he may of had some influence. i dont believe that is the case.

Rob

i think GT has enabled those with a bearish slant on the markets to be heard but that's about it.

those who've not bought or sold in the last 10 years or who are not in the industries profiting from the run up are waking up to the ridiculousness of the PR campaigns behind them.

call it a correction or what you will, prices are or will soon be dropping on their own pace at their own speed and location may not be enough if there is a panic and it snowballs. it's only in the last few months that we've found out just how many mortgages were in the 0/40 ball park. what else hasn't been published by CMHC and CREA in the endless positive spin.

Chuck D

In the winter they blamed the snow. Now they're blaming Turner's book. I haven't spoken to many people who've read the book but I have spoken with lots of people who feel the market has peaked. Here's an idea...Blame it on the rain....We've had record rainfall that could be driving consumers away. Or perhaps you could admit that prices have gone out of reach and have eclipsed inflation.

Sam Trent

Garth Turner is a nobody. He had NO effect on the housing market..at all.

Mark

You have got to be kidding right? Garth wrote a book and suddenly people start selling their homes?

Garths book was in limited release and in the GTA only 3 were sold in Halton area bookstores and I was one of them (I needed a good laugh)

WOW...Garth Turner impacting the real estate market of the supposed economic engine of the country.

Id like a drag of what youre smoking...

Al

My take is the increase in listings is the flippers exiting the market. Garth may have convinced them, or more likely it's the carnage down south. Even the mild level off in price appreciation could have scared the flippers off.

The practice of relisting to reset DOM is a stupid one. It's self defeating, as people come to realize that DOM is a useless stat.

Dont Buy IT

If you look at the survey on this site, most people think a major correction/crash has already started in Toronto Real Estate. Even alot of Honest Agents (not all of them) admit that things are pretty bad and we are on the verge of a major correction. Combination of double digit sales drops every month and a 30% increase in inventory means a downward pressure on prices.

Ontario is in a major recession and just look at the thousands losing their jobs monthly and you will see the Toronto Real Estate Market tanking has nothing to do with Garth Turner.

fahmy kadiri

My favorite analogy is that of a restaurant owner who all of a sudden experiences a surge in business because a circus show is in town. Misinterpreting the market he begins to hire all sorts of staff and even buys the property next door to expand his business. Things are good until the circus show packs up and he is stuck wondering what happened to his customers.

- A slowing economy
- Job losses
- Lower wages (my company actually lowered the entry level salary for my job)
- elimination of the 40 year AM
- higher taxes

these are the major factors in the slowdown of the RE market, to suggest Garth single handedly caused a downturn is just plain silly.

RE is only worth what someone else can afford, the current prices are not affordable for the reasons mentioned above as Garth would say, a lot of homeowners will be getting an involuntary "hair cut" in this market.

Bubble Trouble

Ha Ha, too funny! Absolutely Garth has caused the Real Estate market to start falling in Toronto. He also caused Real Estate to crash in Japan, to start falling in the UK, in Spain, in Australia and especially In the US. Of course it would have nothing to do with a classic Bubble deflating in all of those markets and now deflating in Canada.

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