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November 13, 2008

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dontcallmeshirley

Hey John,

If you have the data, graph 2007 & 2008.

Number of houses sold on the x-axis,

Price ranges on the y-axis.

The picture should be one with a big hump on the left and little tail on the right.

If the 2008 graph doesn't have the little tail, or it's shorter, then the land transfer effect is real.

If the 2008 graph looks the same as the 2007 one, but lower because of fewer transactions, then the tax had no effect.

Tada!

Zait O Za3tar

Can we even make statistic with such tiny numbers of houses sold? For any of the analysis to be meaningful, we need the number of houses sold in each price segment to be at least a 100 or so. Otherwise, there is no point in coming to a conclusion there.

Also, I like the suggestion of dontcallmeshirley, we can have multiple data-plots by price segment plotted on a price vs. #of houses sold.

Torontonian

John,

Keep pumping! Best of luck!

Torontonian

This patient will not revive.

May Toronto housing boom rest in peace....

Torontonian

This patient will not revive.

May Toronto housing boom rest in peace....

jim

The housing market crash is coming. Hold off on that home purchase. Otherwise your getting ripped off

dontcallmeshirley

Hey Jim & Torontonian,

I want the dam to break too, but we need a catalyst. Sellers are holding out and de-listing.

An "event" is necessary to push them into conceding on price.

By pumping $75B into the banks, the Bank of Canada gave sellers a second wind and bought them a few more months.

cheers.

Rob

What does any of this matter?
What are these numbers anyways - they just get in the way of a lovely new home purchase?

The Obama effect will fix everything in a scant two months.

[for those with no sense of humour ... and real estate agents - the above is sarcasm aimed directly at you, you reverential, eternal optimists you.]

Torontonian

My advice to all is to read Garth Turner website
greaterfool (dot) ca. You will see all the info there and not on some realestate website.

John Pasalis

@dontcallmeshirley

It sounds like you've assigned some home work for me

@Zait O Za3tar

The purpose of this was not to make any big conclusions about the market as a whole, or to suggest what holds true for these MLS areas is true for all others. I just wanted to look at a few of the worst performing MLS areas to get a better understanding of why prices declined as much as they did in Oct.

@Torontonian
I don't make up the numbers, I just report on them.

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